Archive of UserLand's first discussion group, started October 5, 1998.
Re: Apple's failure to link to UserLand
Author: Dave Winer Posted: 10/30/1999; 10:03:21 AM Topic: Today's scriptingNews Outline Msg #: 12547 (In response to 12546) Prev/Next: 12546 / 12548
We spent virtually all of 1993 recoding Frontier to build off the Apple Event Object Model, for naught, Apple didn't deliver on their end of the deal, which was including Frontier in the marketing for Mac scripting.
A lot of the arguing we got from Apple was about why we were doing it differently from them. That usually happened the instant they had a spec, even if they didn't have an implementation. We saw Apple people as being incompetent whiners, unrealistic and unappreciative. Maybe you didn't know everyone involved Paul, you certainly weren't in many of the meetings I had with Apple people.
Remember Roger Heinen? And there was another guy, a total suit, who tossed hand grenades into my company any time he pleased. He once even tried to get me fired. (I owned the company, what an idiot.) I think his first name was Steve.
And then there was the jerk who got up in a meeting in front of a dozen Apple people and said "But we aren't trying to crush UserLand!" You should have seen the execs scurry from the room like rats. Zoooom. I laughed. "Gotcha!," I thought to myself.
Funny story -- I got a call from Steve Jobs shortly after he took over at Apple. He said something like "These people are all bozos." I was taken aback by the statement. Of course I agreed. They were total bozos. But for some reason I didn't like hearing him say that, so I kept my mouth shut.
Now I know it's OK. They were bozos. The worst, most incompetent excuse for a software company this planet has ever known.
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- Re: Apple's failure to link to UserLand, Paul Snively, 10/30/1999; 10:30:57 AM
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