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Re: vision: purposeful online community for all human beings...
Author: Russell Lipton Posted: 7/9/2000; 10:31:32 AM Topic: vision: purposeful online community for all human beings... Msg #: 18410 (In response to 18400) Prev/Next: 18409 / 18411
IMHO, when you start "listing" people formally, "politics" inevitably enter the fray (the wrong-side of politics: cliques, power groups et al).
That is entirely other than informal hotlisting and cross-linking (a good thing, to say the least), but isn't that already happening everywhere on the Web?
I'm not ranting but asking -
How purposeful can community be before it subverts its own purpose?
(Related questions: who gets to be the gatekeeper and why? If the gatekeepers are the "group", do group "ratings" generate anything better in the long run than the least-common-denominator stuff that already poisons our culture?)
There is an inherent degree of serendipity in Web-learning that routes around this kind of thing.
Put another way, the "noise" (purposeless-ness) that comes along for the ride is part of the dynamic. Can you have purpose without the noise as well? One person's grasp of "purpose" often looks like a waste of mindshare to someone else.
Serendipity is something more than "sheer luck" but something less than planned organization. I question that you ran into Greenspun, Winer et al through dumb luck. You were "routed to them" by a series of learning experiences on the Web. This doesn't make the clumsiness of the Web something mystical, to be sure, but maybe it isn't quite as clumsy as we imagine?
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- Re: vision: purposeful online community for all human beings..., Dave Winer, 7/9/2000; 11:08:17 AM
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