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scriptingNews outline for 9/13/2000

Author:Dave Winer
Posted:9/13/2000; 6:18:30 AM
Topic:scriptingNews outline for 9/13/2000
Msg #:21291
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DaveNet: P2P is Bigger.

New docs: How to create a Weblog with Radio UserLand.

Yesterday I started the p2p-discuss mail list on eGroups to discuss stuff before the Intel-sponsored working group meeting on Sept 26.

What is ThemeStream?

Uncle! 

I unsubscribed from the advanced RSS mail list, and posted a message to the Syndication list, which was the place where RSS was primarily discussed before the split. I'd love to get a discussion going among the non-heavyweight people, talking with Lynn Siprelle this morning reminded me that there's still work to do.

We probably need more docs, sample scripts, newbie help, howtos, basic stuff to get people going. I decided to stop fighting. If anything comes of this discussion, we can call our spec RSS-Classic, and let the other people have their way.

I also reviewed the comments under the RSS 0.91 spec, and see that there are still some unresolved issues there. I'd like people to feel free to post their ideas, whether or not they understand all the details of the discussions that have been going on.

Imho, this stuff is for people who are bewildered by the maze of complex specs that are XML. There are people who think I'm criticizing them when I say that, but I'm an empiricist on this, meaning I've seen the bewilderment, in myself and others. I think XML is important, and it should be easy for people to get in.

Now it's no longer a matter of contention. They can have the RSS name if they really want it. I just want to have a discussion with cool people doing interesting stuff.

Napster stuff 

Wired: Napster goes on the offensive.

WSJ: Can Betamax save Napster?

Red Herring: "Powerful entities are trying to gain control of the Internet," says ACLU lawyer Chris Hansen. "Intellectual property law is being used to restrict speech on the Internet. Whether that should be allowed or not is the huge question."

News.Com: Smashing Pumpkins goes direct.

Lots more info on Smashing Pumpkins here.

Radio UserLand news 

Rogers Cadenhead is rendering his Radio UserLand history.xml file on his HTML website.

Lynn Siprelle wrote the script that Roger is using and it's been part of the New Homemaker Radio site for more than a week. Apologies to Lynn for not mentioning it. It's been hard to keep with all the developments with all the michegas and good stuff in my life. I'll try to do better! ";->"

Mac OS X 

MacWEEK: Jobs announces new iBook, OS X beta.

MacWorld: "Mac OS X offers a very different sort of Finder, one that will undoubtedly appeal to many Mac users and repel others."

Random stuff 

Simon Cozens: Who Owns You? "One thing I've always loved about working on free software is that you can do it purely for the community, as a completely free agent -- doing what I want, when I want to, because I want to do it. But while that's a romantic notion, it's not totally borne out in reality. There are plenty of limits to my impartiality even if I'm not 'owned' by a software company."

Red Herring has a profile of Heidi Roizen.

Another breathless DigiScents article. When will they ship?

Lance Knobel: "The guy to go to on digital smell is Nate Lewis at CalTech. He was fascinating on this subject in Davos."

Klaus Schwab, president of the World Economic Forum, on the protests in Melbourne.

2/4/00: "Klaus Schwab, the Swiss professor who is the host of Davos, is a medium-height man, fit, always well-dressed, bald, formal in his mannerisms. Dr. Schwab is the head of the World Economic Forum and is the moderator of the most important sessions at Davos. "

Not sure what's going on here.



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