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scriptingNews outline for 10/7/2000

Author:Dave Winer
Posted:10/7/2000; 6:58:56 AM
Topic:scriptingNews outline for 10/7/2000
Msg #:21865
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Mets win in 13, up 2-1 in series.

Doc Searls wrote an open letter to eBay's Meg Whitman.

Tim Cavanaugh: "Although I did contract with [Business 2.0] to write an article about Reverend Jackson and his organization's Silicon Valley Initiative, the story printed in the magazine does not represent — and in fact directly contradicts — the reporting I did and the conclusions I drew in the two drafts I turned in to the magazine's editors."

Jeff Barr: "I've left Microsoft and restarted Vertex Development, my consulting identity." (Jeff is the author of Headline Viewer.)

Kishore Balakrishnan has an idea that we should all graph our mentor lists. I'm flattered that he includes me as one of his mentors, along with Jakob Nielsen. But it would be interesting to see who we all look up to.

In a fit of idearrhea yesterday, I posted three messages on the Radio UserLand discussion group. In the first, I ask what's the two-minute grab-you-by-the-collar feature in Radio UserLand? I think I know what it is, now the question is how to put in your face so you trip over it in minute one, and experience it in minute two, without requiring you to read the docs.

In the second post, I recount the conversation with Doug Engelbart, and how much of it revolved about addressibility inside outlines. We have the problem fairly well licked for whole documents, but how to point into a document? Outline structure suggests one way to do it, but it has a big problem when the doc is reorganized. We will start simply, with labels on outline elements that are attributes.

I saved the best for last. We've been noodling and fussing over a feature request from Stan Krute, he's looking for a way to share editing rights on outlines stored in the cloud. We took a few wrong turns, and came back to earth where we always do, Manila. The feature described in my post is now implemented in Manila, so my next project is to write a tutorial to show you how it works. That'll appear at the top of Scripting News when it's ready. It could be an interesting weekend since Manila now speaks "OPML", and that's the native format of Radio.






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