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scriptingNews outline for 6/28/99

Author:Dave Winer
Posted:6/28/1999; 6:36:30 AM
Topic:scriptingNews outline for 6/28/99
Msg #:7860
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ContentServer 2.0, with new support for guest databases and discussion groups. CS allows groups of writers, artists and designers to contribute to a Frontier-managed website using their favorite tools, thru email, FTP or file sharing. It's one of the earliest examples of web workflow in Frontier; CS 1.0 shipped in April 1997, the same month we started Scripting News.

Thea's Galleria visits the Haddock Directory, a directory of 5000 URLs on more than 300 pages, managed by Frontier.

Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Pricing. For a 25-client license, it's $1609. It's not clear if this means that the web server is limited to a certain number of threads. A page explaining the pricing for people wanting to use NT Server just as a web server would be helpful.

William Crim says "NT pricing is worse than you fear." Crim's bottom line, for a reasonable server with Microsoft's SQL database, software cost: $9126.

Jim Flanagan: "Deploying Linux in certain large-scale situations is a far cry from $free. Talented people must be employed making Linux do what you want. Linux is flexible. You can go where you want, provided you can understand the source, have the technical resources, and don't need to go there today."

New Channel: The New Museum of Contemporary Art. NYC?

SJ Merc: Valley is Overflowing with Men. "The region that gave the world the semiconductor and personal computer is one of the few major metropolitan areas in the country with a surplus of single men, according to marketing data derived from the U.S. Census."

NY Times: Delay in Domain Registration. "The latest delay comes on the heels of a letter-writing campaign by Ralph Nader and tax watchdog groups and an inquiry from the chairman of the powerful House Commerce Committee, Rep. Thomas Bliley, R-Va., questioning the actions and the authority of the Commerce Department and ICANN."

In c't's test lab, a comparison between NT/IIS and the freeware duo Linux/Apache focused on practice-oriented tasks.

The Register quotes Larry Ellison. "Anyone can write a browser, and people will. That's not going to matter." Yes yes yes.

More My.UserLand.Com changes.

Microsoft's Ben Slivka writes in response to yesterday's DaveNet that they have a benchmark dynamic site implemented in VB, ASP and SQL running on NT. He suggests that this site be ported to other environments to compare scalability, time to develop, runtime characteristics. This is a positive step in the right direction. He says "Not an answer to your $1500 or even $5000 question, perhaps, but the perf numbers look pretty good." To everyone else, think about it.

Hey I tried to log into the site, but it didn't work. I guess they're still diggin!

Upside: Limits of Linux Passion. "I bought my first Windows machine. Of course, I bought it to run Linux."

Industry Standard: Talk Radio Moves to the Web.

Perhaps PC WEEK's motives are revealed in their choice of graphic for the benchmarks they ran comparing Linux and NT?

Eric Raymond: "There is nothing like having your finger on the trigger of a gun to reveal who you really are. Life or death in one twitch -- ultimate decision, with the ultimate price for carelessness or bad choices." Yeah, here's what I learned, the one time in my life that I fired a gun. It scared the bejesus out of me. I don't want that kind of power in my hand. I don't trust myself with it.

Upcoming DaveNet topic. Now that we have a Cluetrain for vendors, where's the Cluetrain for users? What responsibilities do users have when they have access to management and development staff of companies whose products they use? What can today's users do to help more companies come out from behind the firewall?




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