Archive of UserLand's first discussion group, started October 5, 1998.
scriptingNews outline for 7/9/2000
Author: Dave Winer Posted: 7/9/2000; 8:50:20 AM Topic: scriptingNews outline for 7/9/2000 Msg #: 18406 Prev/Next: 18405 / 18408
DaveNet: Why I Came to Silicon Valley.
On the SOAP mail list, John Barton (Hewlett Packard) and Satish Thatte (Microsoft) propose a way to attach binary information to SOAP messages.
Andre Radke, UserLand's expert on SOAP 1.1, clears up terminology confusion that lead me to wonder why the HP-Microsoft proposal was needed.
Brian Kelly has a Java servlet that reads the new outline format for Scripting News.
Lots of interesting stuff in today's Discussion Group.
What are Gozilla and Download Accelerator?
Mac OS Rumors had two stories about an Apple "cube" that were pulled "at Apple's request". Hmmm.
Jakob Nielson: WAP Backlash.
Thank you Angus. I agree about open source. Gifts *are* cool. Exclusivity is boring. Doc Searls talks about inclusiveness, yet sings the praise of the open source gods, some of the most exclusive people I've ever met. I wonder how he would have us resolve that (apparent) contradiction?
From the It's Later Than You Think Department
I just got an email from a friend who suffered a massive heart attack, and survived. He was at Stanford Hospital at the time it happened. He's now out and hiking every day, with little damage to his heart, and a new perspective on life.
Guy Lombardo: Enjoy Yourself. "When you kiss a dollar bill, it doesn't kiss you back."
All the sarcasm that's fit to print?
Sarcasm at the NY Times on a sensitive subject. It took me a few paragraphs to figure out that the author, Matt Richtel, examining a small corner of the music-on-the-Internet issue, was trivializing the user's perspective, through sarcasm. I doubt that the interviews are real. Shameful reporting, far below the Times' normal quality standards.
Max Frankel, also writing in the Times, says "Americans will get the journalism they pay for." Interesting point. When writing about Internet issues, the Times will realize that the competition is fierce, and disrespect weakens Frankel's argument. The Richtel piece is not worth paying for, imho.
Making Money: "The Web has its own mechanism for quality. If you want people to return, you have to take the high road, the reputation you tarnish with weak opinion and incorrect fact is your own."
Moving to New Orleans?
Great party in SF at Marc Canter's last night. Got home at 3AM. Dot-com yuppies are talking about more interesting stuff now, not such a rush to get the options cashed out, more romance, flirting and singing. In other words the downturn for dot-coms is good for SF parties. Another benefit!
We also talked about relocating the Web industry from Potrero Hill to New Orleans. Such a beautiful city, I heard at the party that a lot of people have already moved there, to buy beautiful Garden District and Uptown homes, even mansions, for the price of a bungalow on Mariposa Street.
But then I am reminded that there are two Louisianas, one that's uninhibited, with great music, food and architecture, and a big old river; and one that thumps the Bible and throws people in jail for doing simple human things.
(And it's a big death penalty state.)
At Davos, Shimon Peres gave another compelling argument for peace. Dot-com yuppies want parks, bike paths, good schools, no traffic jams, in other words, a high quality of life. Part of the quality of a life is the extent to which diversity is supported. To get on to the global economy growth path, you have to get your government out of places it doesn't belong.
(Also, dot-com yuppies probably won't come if you're at war.)
Prison must be the exception, not the rule. Sex is not the government's business. Thanks for listening.
Doc on inclusion
Doc Searls: "Microsoft's .Net strategy looks like an attack on Sun to me. Just as Sun's Java strategy always looked like an attack on Microsoft. One's coming from the desktop, the other's coming from the server, and both miss what the Net is about, which is inclusion. They talk inclusion, but on their terms. So the programmers will find ways to include both of them."
No parachutes!
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